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Deja vu for high school site
BOE buys former Kings Ridge land; Middle school land nears closing
by Candy Waylock




(STEPHANIE TRUE MOSS/Revue) (click for larger version)
April 04, 2007
Freemanville Road residents were able to chase off a private school from the 100-acre site near their homes, but now the Fulton Board of Education has chosen the same land for the Birmingham high school.

Most school officials were off for Spring Break, so details are still sketchy. But developer Richard Wernick, one of the partners who owned the land, confirmed that the Board of Education closed on the property March 30.

When King's Ridge Christian School first bought the property in 2000, neighboring residents opposed the selection saying it would add traffic congestion to a road that was not built to handle it. They also opposed the quality of life disturbances a 1,200-student, K-12 private school would bring to such a rural area.

The matter wound up in court, and Kings Ridge finally gave up in 2003 began another search that wound up with that school building at the corner of Bethany Road and Cogburn Road.

Meanwhile, Milton has continued to grow, and now the Fulton Board of Education has come calling with a plan for an 1,800-student high school which might include a new middle school as well.

White Columns resident George Ragsdale, one of the leaders in the fight to stop Kings Ridge School, said he knew the school board was looking for a site and could see this news coming.

"I was expecting [news of the closing] any day," Ragsdale said.

District school board member for the area Katie Reeves said she had not received official confirmation from school authorities on the close of the sale, but said any site selection involving 100 acres or more is likely to cause some controversy.

"Regardless of where [the high school] is, there is going to be a hue and cry against it," Reeves said. "We just have to make the best choices we can."

The new schools would offload students from Milton High School and Northwestern Middle School, with shifting attendance zones also affecting other area schools.

While school officials were mum on the exact location of the proposed property site, Assistant Superintendent Michael Russell did comment on the criteria the board put in place to purchase land.

"The [Fulton County School Board's] guidelines are you buy from willing sellers, with preferably the entire parcel owned by one person," said Russell.

While no timeline exists for when the new high school and middle school are slated to open, the funding is available in the Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax (SPLOST), which was just recently extended through 2012. Therefore, construction of the new schools will likely start construction by 2012.

The system has long proposed a new high school for the city of Milton, with a new middle school more recently on the radar.

"What we've said for a long time, and the numbers support us, is that we need one high school east and one high school west of Georgia 400," said Russell. "We've started the process on a new high school in Johns Creek [opening in 2009] and are now on the west side."

The SPLOST funds a middle school in North Fulton, but does not specify the location. Therefore the school system could opt to build a middle school on the east side of 400 in Johns Creek if the need is greater on that side of the highway.

As far as numbers for Milton High School, without a new school to offload students, the area's newest high school will have an enrollment of nearly 3,000 students by 2011, according to school system projections. Milton currently has 2,100 students.

The purchase price of the land was not announced, but the school system budget is $25 million for land for a new high school and middle school.

During a meeting with the Milton City Council in January, Fulton School Superintendent James Wilson pledged to work closely with the new city leaders to ensure the school is a fit for the community. At the time, Wilson did not confirm co-locating a new elementary, middle and high school in one general area. However, he said the strategy has been successful at Crabapple Crossing Elementary, Northwestern Middle and Milton High.

The arrangement allows schools to share resources and be more efficient with transportation.

It is a strong possibility the school system will use such a tactic with the new high school and middle school slated for the county in the next few years. The Birmingham Road elementary school is opening in 2009.

Milton Councilwoman Tina D'Aversa-Williams said school officials have been clear from the beginning that local government has limited involvement in school site selection.

"We really have not been in the information loop, although [Fulton School officials] have been very cordial," said Williams. "I think most of the council members are in the same position as most of the citizens as far as what they know about the new high school."

The secrecy involved in the purchase of a school site was necessary to provide confidentiality and privacy to the seller and to ensure the school system gets the best price for the land, according to school officials.

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King's Ridge usage wears out public fields
April 22, 2007 | 07:24 PM

It is very expensive to maintain sod, and fields need to be rested to keep them in good condition. Just because a field is not actively in use during the day doesn't mean that it "doesn't cost the city anything".

King's Ridge should pay for their own property to conduct pe classes, just like Woodward, and Wesleyan.

Having a "private school" does not mean you get to cherry pick resources from the public schools that are too "expensive" for the affluent private schools to provide to their own students.
April 19, 2007 | 03:20 PM

I'm fairly certain that the other private schools don't need the park.

And think about this - the park goes mostly unused during those times that KR is there. Have you thought that perhaps KR is paying a usage fee? If so, they're helping "your" park to stay in shape so you might want to check the facts.

Assuming that Schmoltz's influence is at play here is, in my opinion, a bit short-sited and reeks of jealousy.

It IS relevant that private school families are doing the cities/counties a HUGE favor. As I said before, we free up seats and put NO stress on the system while we continue to help pay for it. To chase us out of public facilities reveals your hypocrisy. You'll take our money in taxes but refuse to allow us to use those facilities? That makes no sense.
City doesn't apply policy consistently, should not provide KR wi
April 19, 2007 | 03:01 PM

If the city wants to open the parks to regarlar heavy usage for school day pe classes by private schools, they should be made available to ALL such schools, and not only the school supported by Alpharetta's most famous sports figure.

That is not the case, so whether you are doing me a "favor" by having your kid attend private school is really irrelevant.
April 19, 2007 | 02:50 PM

Trust me; there are more kids in "your" city that are attending private school than the total population of KR. The parents sending their kids to private schools are doing the cities and counties a HUGE favor. To chase them out of a park for using it for an hour during school hours would be very hypocritical. Next time, thank them for helping relieve the stress on the system.

Look, sneering at "private school kids and families" is a popular pastime for those that assume that all those families are rich and spoiled. Sure, some of those families are very wealthy, but most of them have their kids at private schools for very particular reasons (academics, college opportunity, faith, environment, etc.) and struggle every year to pay the tuition, on top of the taxes they already pay to reserve a seat in the public school.

And by the way, you're welcome. My kids are in a private school, but not KR, even though I think the schools here aren't too bad.
City policy does not allow private organizations to use parks
April 19, 2007 | 11:12 AM

They chase off the Korean Church School kids under that policy. The policy should be consistent for all groups.

And the 300 or so students from KR come from a number of different counties and school districts. They would be a drop in the bucket at my kid's school.
April 19, 2007 | 10:58 AM

Would you rather they show up at the schools? Their parents help pay for the schools (and the parks) through taxes. Just be happy that KR and other private schools are helping to relieve the stress and overcrowding of the public schools.
Why Does KR get City Funded playgrounds!!
April 19, 2007 | 09:22 AM

I go to Wills Park almost every day. And every day there are a hundred or mor KR kids having PE classes on the baseball fields. Boys lounge on benches and leave their SHOES in the middle of walkways (make yourselves at home guys!)

Why does KR get a free pass to use the scarce athletic fields of the City of Alpharetta when the city is pressing to get Milton and JC kids out of our athletic programs where the pay TWICE the fees that city of ALpharetta kids pay.

Come on City of Alpharetta, stop kissing up to John Smoltz and treat his pet project by the same rules that everyone else has to follow.

Our soccer fields in Webb Bridge Park are nothing but dirt, while the KR kids play on the lush grass of Wills Park.

I challenge this paper to look into what is going on here.


Milton Citizen
April 13, 2007 | 04:41 PM

Nobody, be it a subdivision or a large acre parcel, should have to border this facility. If anything, high schools should be placed in highly retail arenas due to the uncontrolled noise and traffic. The BOE can eminent domain businesses too!

Tim Enloe
April 13, 2007 | 08:47 AM

In my view, folks who are complaining about this high school should be pleased in the overall aspect of things. I mean,look at it this way, not ONE resident is being displaced via the unfortunate ace of eminent domain that the BOE has in it's back pocket. The same was NOT true for the ill placed Milton High. As others have stated, seven families were removed from their homes. White Columns should be pleased that the BOE isn't carving a chunk out of their precious "bubble mentality" subdivision to make way for this school.
April 12, 2007 | 10:34 PM

You can't honestly think a public school will raise property values!!! It will not be beneficial to the area and in my opinion it will actually LOWER property values.

Why not plan for growth -- everyone complains about traffic -- what is the impact of adding that many cars to the area five days a week?

I chose private school for my kids because it is not the government's role to educate my children. We're not uptight, we don't think we are better than anyone else and those uniforms you mention instill a sense of order and discipline.

It's our choice to pay for private school although we are paying for government school too -- and thankfully it is still a choice we can make in this country.
Don't lump all White Columns homeowners together!
April 12, 2007 | 10:26 PM

I for one was a supporter of Kings Ridge for their original site. I could see then that a private school, k-12 with 1,200 students, on a campus designed to address neighbors' concerns was better than the alternative we are getting now - a public school with 2-3 times as many students, on a campus that will likely not address any of the neighbors' concerns. I did not agree with the NIMBY attitude of many of my neighbors who fought KR, because I did not have my head in the sand thinking if only KR went away, we'd be protected for ever.

On another note, the previous post about property values was incorrect - a public high school is more likely to lower values. Only an elementary school - public or private - usually increases values.
April 12, 2007 | 02:30 PM

Would Milton be a "great high school" if you lost your home to it?
Happy about the High School
April 12, 2007 | 01:54 PM

Thanks Fulton County. Land values will be much higher with a Public School rather than if the Private School had gone in. And, at least my kids can walk to School now instead of watching a bunch of uptight kids in uniforms get carted in from all over. Hope Kings Ridge doesn't take over North Park too. It belongs to all the people not just the few from a private School.

And, what a bunch of garbage about Private vs. Public. It's not the Schools that mold the kids, it's the parents. Milton is a great High School and the Fulton County Board of Education does a great job with our children.

Lastly, watch out for the deer. They were here first!





I feel sorry for the deer
April 11, 2007 | 01:37 PM

My favorite hypocrisy out of all of this are those adults/parents that feel they have managed to raise a superior teenager because they have the money or are willing to spend the money to send their pure child to a private school. Wake up! You have drugs, you have sex, you have "violations", it is just a little farther below the surface. If you opened your mind and were able to have a candid discussion with both the "punks" and the "privates" you would hear that your "pure" children don't always act as such. Not every teenager at either type of school is either a punk or a pure angel. You parents are frightened of the world. Raise a child that can think, has a positive self image, has responsibility and must earn their money, (like the rest of the world) and teach them true christian acceptance and forgiveness of the planet's other inhabitants. They need to continue the maturation process and learn to cope with all types of outside influences in a positive, constructive manner. Heavens help them when they are out of the artificial bubble you have tried to construct and must operate independently at college and in the work force. Will they be able to make good choices when faced with temptation, will they be able to accept and interact with the multi-cultural, diverse place that we call the world? I am left with a very disappointing image of your "christian" school. The traffic is an inconvenience. The real problem lies in your heart and your head.

Anonymous
Punks???
April 11, 2007 | 01:06 PM

Yep.

Just wait. Even a fine HS like Northview has fights at ball games, heavy drinking in the parking lots, boys making horrible comments to girls, etc. This is just a sample. My kids attend a private school and I know for a fact that this doesn't happen. I'm not delusional - I have a very firm grasp on what my kids are doing on a daily basis Except for one or two parents, the same can be said for all the rest of the families at our school. And by the way, I think Northview is actually a pretty fine school – but I know about these incidents firsthand. And oh yeah, they have been known to distribute condoms to the incoming 9th grade students – this I also know firsthand – it happened to the current senior class when they first started.

Simple question: Which would you rather have built near you, a 1,200 student private K-12 school or the combination of a 1,800 student public HS and 1,200 student MS?
Crazy.
April 11, 2007 | 12:14 PM

I heard a rumor that some of the residents of White Columns are threatening to not pay their taxes if the BOE goes through with their plans to build the High School and Middle School on Freemanville. If true, folks are going to get some deals on the court house steps. Have fun playing with Katie!
April 11, 2007 | 10:30 AM

"Wonderful Public Schools"? I guess you've never been forced out of your home for a public school. Then again, I guess you can't add because if you do the math, the money spent on public schools outweights private 10 to 1, yet private school kids blow public school kids out of the water when it comes to testing as well as dicipline.
Punks???
April 11, 2007 | 10:20 AM

Anyone who thinks the kids at public school are any different than the KR kids is delusional.

We have a lot of great kids in our community and insulting kids because they go to our wonderful public schools is just bigoted nonsense.

Terry
blog banter
April 11, 2007 | 09:12 AM

you know it kind of scares one when one watches how adults behave when there are essentially no constraints and they are asked to moderate each other... it doesn't seem to work very well does it?
April 11, 2007 | 09:11 AM

Widen the roads? I guess your ok with somebody taking out your front yard too?


Full Circle Effect
April 11, 2007 | 08:19 AM

Tell me, where was the outcry from George and the White Columns gang when seven longtime residents were REMOVED from their homes for the ill placed opulent Milton High on Freemanville that wasn't needed to begin with? There was none because the infamous "bubble mentality" wasn't being affected. Well, the full circle effect is hell, isn't it? I would have LOVED for Kings Ridge to be where the new Milton is. You White Columns folks will learn first hand that the Board of Education answers to NO ONE; not even those who practice hypocrisy. Have you ever considered that if folks didn't buy in these wannabee subdivisions, the schools might not be calling?
The irony stings....
April 09, 2007 | 01:04 PM

What helps me accept the aggravation I will experience because of the new high school is knowing those cry babies that fought Kings Ridge will suffer more than me. Thanks for nothing!

another neighbor
I hope you folks that fought Kings Ridge are happy
April 06, 2007 | 10:18 PM

You could have had a 1,200 student K-12 school but instead you get a 2,000+ punks for just a HS and then more added to a MS. You'll have 3,000 students there before long. So you'll have twice as many and the kids that'll be there will be twice as bad as the KR kids will ever be. Congratulations - you blew it!
neighbor
April 06, 2007 | 01:35 PM

Sounds like payback from Kings Ridge. The same issues surround that land and it is amazing that the School bought such "prime" land for a School.

Thanks for the extra traffic. It already takes 15 minutes to go a mile at the intersection of Freemanville and Providence Roads. I guess payback is hell! Pray for us Kings Ridge!
Get to paving
April 05, 2007 | 09:54 PM

I hope the new City of Milton is planning for the increased traffic through the city. They need to start turning those 2 lane roads into 4 lanes before it is too late. The growth isnt slowing so the paving should start!!!
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