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Alpharetta continues stimulus debate
May 05, 2009
City Council continued a philosophical debate May 4 over accepting federal stimulus dollars before agreeing to apply for enough money to fund hiring and equipping a crime scene technician for two years.

Grants Administrator Amanda Day brought the application for a $277,000 grant for the Public Safety Department before council, telling them no matching dollars are required if the city is awarded the cash.

While Councilmen David Belle Isle and John Monson didn't want to apply for or accept any federal stimulus dollars, their counterparts saw the money as being due Alpharetta residents, who they said pay more in taxes than they receive back from the federal government.

Unlike some grants under the federal stimulus program, there is no requirement to keep this position when the grant period ends, Day told council.

Public Safety Director Gary George told council the position is so important that his department is willing to cut a vacant, sworn officer's position out of its budget. That's because the Georgia Bureau of Investigation's crime lab is so backed up it takes months to return results, so the position is vital, said George.

George wants a non-sworn staff member in the position because he said someone who is not an officer would treat the job as a career. If a police officer is put in the position, he or she usually wants to return to other duties and is in line for promotion out of the job, said George.

Belle Isle was against the funding because it comes from the federal government printing more money. He said it is not just being taken from city residents, but also from their children to repay the debt in taxes.

"I've never known anyone to take money from their credit card and stick it in the stock market," he said.

Belle Isle said this position is important enough that City Council can find a way to put it in the budget.

Monson agreed with Belle Isle's comments. This grant will not be creating a new job, he said, as it is filling a vacant position.

"This in no way has stimulated anything if it does not create a job," Monson said.

Mayor Arthur Letchas disagreed with Belle Isle and Monson.

"Sometimes I think we get very little back from the federal government, and sometimes I think we deserve more," the mayor said.

Councilman Doug DeRito said it was important to apply for these dollars because no matter what the city does, "our children and grandchildren and us as taxpayers are going to pay this debt.

"We are going to pay this national credit card whether we like it or not," he said.

Councilman D.C. Aiken continued the debate, saying he was trying to grasp what he called fuzzy math. He said this isn't money that goes back to taxpayers if the city doesn't accept it.

"This is money that goes somewhere else if it doesn't go here," Aiken said.

For Councilman Jim Paine the bottom line is that this fills a critical need for the Department of Public Safety.

Councilwoman Cheryl Oakes closed off the discussion by saying she agreed that if it is a need, the city needs to apply for the grant. She said if the city receives the grant to fund the position for two years, she was willing to consider adding it to Alpharetta's budget.

"This is just such an emotional topic for all of us. All of us are feeling the pinch of a decision that we really didn't have much say in, it appears," Oakes said.

The council approved the grant application on a 5-2 vote, with Belle Isle and Monson opposed.

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Rubbish is blind
May 16, 2009 | 08:57 PM

This "unhappy voter" should be thrilled. It is his/her attitude and vote that got Obama elected. He/she has already "won" the election. I don't understand why anyone who wants everything for "free" would be an "unhappy voter". The Men that voted against accepting the funds LOST the vote...so, again; what's not to be "happy" about?

I would think its the people that see what a horrible mess this country is getting into that would be "unhappy voters".

REAL unhappy voter, Alpharetta
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Rubbish
May 16, 2009 | 07:49 PM

Federal dollars are going to be spent if they are available. To vote not to accept the dollars offered is (1) dumb, (2) rubbish, (3) a political stunt, (4) cheats citizens of Alpharetta of funds that they have contributed to with their hard earned tax dollars. Who do these guys think they are voting against accepting these funds? What is so difficult to see here?

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A good man
May 15, 2009 | 10:16 AM

I saw him campaigning at Taste of Alpharetta yesterday. I stopped to tell him I sincerely apppreciate he and Mr. Belle Isle taking this stand. He said others on Council had stood against the stimulus plan in January, but now support taking the money for Public Safety items. He was very respectful of the other Council Members' decision; but I do not (personally) understand why they would vote to accept this money which we all know is coming from the next generation to pay back. We need more people like Mr. Monson and Mr. Belle Isle in politics. More Statesmen and less polititians! Alpharetta will re-elect this man.

Amy R., Alpharetta
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FINALLY
May 07, 2009 | 11:28 PM

It seems at every level of government, they all are so eager to put their hands out for the Masiah to give them homes. Our children will pay the price for today's greed and I am so happy to see these leaders truly lead. THANK YOU Councilmen Belle Isle and Monson for having the courage to just say "NO" to this madness that has taken over our country. Thank you for understanding that, if our City needs something, we should do what we've always done; prioritize and pay for it. If we can't pay for it, we don't need it. We certainly don't need to take the money from our childrens' future to pay for things we can't afford today.

Cheryl T., Alpharetta
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